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hm also ich weiß garnicht das es schon nforce 4 mainboards lagernd gibt bei den einzelhändlern, aber das problem bei neuer technik ist halt immer wie gut man sie mit treiber usw ausreizt

aber warum kaufst du dir ein athlon 64 system und sparst dann beim mainboard? versteh ich nicht ganz wenn dann würd ich schon ein über drüber board auch reintun

ecs hat nicht unbedingt den ruf wie zB gigabyte, msi oder asus - das muss nicht heißen das ecs schlecht ist (hab selbst zwei beim laufen - das bedeutet eben nur das ecs gern mal bei gewissen sachen einsparrt um den günstigen preis auch rechtzufertigen

du musst nur selbst wissen ob du jetzt ein nforce 4 brettchen immst oder abwartest bis es K8T890 boards auch zum kaufen gibt, es ist eher geschmackssache da via bezüglich overclocking nichtmehr nvidia nachhinkt!

das haben aber leider die user vergessen, den mit dem kt880 (32 bit plattform) haben sie mehr als nur den anschluss gefunden diese techniken finden natürlich auch in den 64 bit plattform chipsätzen einsatz.

ich denke es mehr geschmackssache du könntest genauso fragen intel oder amd also deine frage ist natürlich gerechtfertig und wichtig, nur der unterschied zwischen den chipsätzen ist zu gering das es irgendwo auffallen würde.

wobei du natürlich beachten solltest das dein athlon 64 kaum mehr leistung haben wird als ein vergleichbarer 32 bit prozessor das du ja erst mit einem 64 bit betriebssystem und einem 64 bit dateisystem wirklich die leistung ansatzweise theoretisch ausnutzen könntest.

da windows 64 noch nicht fertig ist und es auch kein 64 bit dateisystem haben wird, ist es also derzeit eher prestisch (hoff das schreibt man so)

Posted on: 2005/1/16 20:00
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Also hat keiner eine Ahnung ob der Nforce 4 Ultra besser zu OCen geht als der Via K8T890.
Mich hätte nur das intersiert.
Also werde mir demnächst einen A64 3200+ zulegen und das ECS mit Nforce 4 Ultra Chipsatz.
Dann werde ich euch mal brichten wie dieses läuft.
Bis dann
MfG
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Posted on: 2005/1/16 19:48
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ja hab ich halt mal mit der stärkeren variante vom nf4 geschrieben.

der nf4 sli wird sicher erst mitte 2005 intressant, wenn mal mehr lanes verfügbar sind! dann werden wohl 2 6800 ultras oder 2 ati karten im amr verbund intressant! mal schaun was dann mein gehalt und urlaubsgeld dazu sagt *g*

weil 2 x 6800 ultra sli oder 2 ati karten dann in einem sys das wird sicher geil werden!

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hermi du bist falsch

vom nforce 4 gibs mehrere versionen, unter anderem den nforce 4 sli aber es gibt ihn auch ohne sli und wenn man sli nicht nutzt dann ist auch egal ob der chipsatz das könnte

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naja nforce 4, also sprich sli brettl, vergiss mal dereweil! weil ja nix bringt, nur 20 lanes! also 1 x 16 und das andere ist halt 4 fach, hab ich wo gelesen!

ich hab im dezember auch schon mit dem gedanken gespielt, auf sli brettl zu setzen, bin dann aber überzeugt worden durch ein paar tests das die nf4 brettl derzeit nicht viel bringen!

naja wennst ne agp-graka hast, why not nforce 3 ultra, bzw das msi k8n neo 2 platinum board? habs selber, bin voll zufrieden damit!

das ist halt meine meinung dazu

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Nein nicht ein Athlon sys ein Athlon 64 sys.
Das NF4Ultra steht für den NForce4 ultra
Und der K8T890 für den Via
Sind Beides 939 Sockel mich würde halt nur Intressieren was besser zu OCen ist.
Danke Und Sorry für die Ungenaue Schreibweise in obrigen Thread.
MfG
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Posted on: 2005/1/16 16:25
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wie hoch willst du denn overclocken ?
also das beste unter den OC boards ist das

DFI lanparty infinity II
mit Nforce 2 Ultra 400er ^^

oder ABIT AN-7 ... mit Nfoce 2 Ultra 400er ^^


auf was legst du wert ?
s-ata ?
7.1 sound ?

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Hallo!
Bin grad dabei mir ein Neues SYS zusammenzustellen, bin nur noch hin und hergerissen welchen Chipsatz ich mir zulegen soll.
Also overclockt wird auf alle Fälle nur würde mich eben intressieren was sich besser eignet.
1. der VIA K8T890
2. der NF4 Ultra.

also was könnt ihr mir empfehlen?

MfG
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Warning: count(): Parameter must be an array or an object that implements Countable in file /home/www/old.pd/pd_data/caches/smarty_compile/68760a1d-newbb-powerdreams1-default^%%5A^5AE^5AECABCD%%db%3Anewbb_viewtopic.tpl.php line 76
Deprecated
Queries
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0.001242 - SELECT * FROM config WHERE (`conf_modid` = '0' AND `conf_catid` = '1') ORDER BY conf_order ASC
0.000303 - SELECT sess_data, sess_ip FROM session WHERE sess_id = '22c5c7b0f8044445ec0527698c901755'
0.000397 - SELECT * FROM modules WHERE dirname = 'newbb'
0.001286 - SELECT COUNT(*) FROM group_permission WHERE (`gperm_modid` = '1' AND (`gperm_groupid` = '3') AND `gperm_name` = 'module_read' AND `gperm_itemid` = '44')
0.001513 - SELECT * FROM config WHERE (`conf_modid` = '44') ORDER BY conf_order ASC
0.000259 - DELETE FROM protector_access WHERE expire < UNIX_TIMESTAMP()
0.000368 - SELECT COUNT(*) FROM protector_access WHERE ip='3.148.104.103' AND request_uri='/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?mode=0&start=10&topic_id=419'
0.000263 - SELECT COUNT(*) FROM protector_access WHERE ip='3.148.104.103'
0.000310 - INSERT INTO protector_access SET ip='3.148.104.103', request_uri='/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?mode=0&start=10&topic_id=419', expire=UNIX_TIMESTAMP()+'10'
0.000380 - SELECT * FROM modules WHERE dirname = 'xoopspoll'
0.000359 - SELECT * FROM bb_topics WHERE topic_id = '419'
0.000269 - SELECT * FROM bb_forums WHERE forum_id = '7'
0.001177 - SELECT * FROM group_permission WHERE (`gperm_modid` = '44' AND `gperm_name` = 'category_access')
0.003871 - SELECT * FROM group_permission WHERE (`gperm_modid` = '44' AND `gperm_name` = 'forum_access')
0.003514 - SELECT * FROM group_permission WHERE (`gperm_modid` = '44' AND `gperm_name` = 'forum_view')
0.000544 - SELECT COUNT(*) FROM `bb_posts` WHERE (`topic_id` = '419' AND `approved` = '1')
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0.011887 - UPDATE bb_topics SET topic_views = LAST_INSERT_ID(topic_views + 1) WHERE topic_id =419
0.000521 - SELECT * FROM config WHERE (`conf_modid` = '0' AND `conf_catid` = '5') ORDER BY conf_order ASC
0.000526 - SELECT * FROM config WHERE (`conf_modid` = '0' AND `conf_catid` = '3') ORDER BY conf_order ASC
0.003951 - SELECT DISTINCT gperm_itemid FROM group_permission WHERE gperm_name = 'block_read' AND gperm_modid = 1 AND gperm_groupid IN (3)
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0.001352 - SELECT * FROM group_permission WHERE (`gperm_name` = 'module_read' AND `gperm_modid` = '1' AND `gperm_groupid` = '3')
0.000699 - SELECT gperm_itemid FROM group_permission LEFT JOIN modules m ON gperm_modid=m.mid WHERE m.dirname='myalbum' AND gperm_name='myalbum_global' AND (gperm_groupid=3)
0.000730 - SELECT gperm_itemid FROM group_permission LEFT JOIN modules m ON gperm_modid=m.mid WHERE m.dirname='myalbum1' AND gperm_name='myalbum_global' AND (gperm_groupid=3)
0.000557 - SELECT * FROM modules WHERE dirname = 'PDdownloads'
0.000342 - SELECT * FROM modules WHERE dirname = 'PDlinks'
0.000550 - SELECT count(*) FROM modules WHERE dirname = 'pcnews' AND isactive=1
0.000336 - SELECT * FROM modules WHERE dirname = 'pcnews'
0.001026 - SELECT COUNT(*) FROM group_permission WHERE (`gperm_modid` = '46' AND (`gperm_groupid` = '3') AND `gperm_name` = 'pcnews_submit')
0.000316 - SELECT count(*) FROM modules WHERE dirname = 'pdnews' AND isactive=1
0.000256 - SELECT * FROM modules WHERE dirname = 'pdnews'
0.000847 - SELECT COUNT(*) FROM group_permission WHERE (`gperm_modid` = '47' AND (`gperm_groupid` = '3') AND `gperm_name` = 'pdnews_submit')
0.000239 - SELECT count(*) FROM modules WHERE dirname = 'beosnews' AND isactive=1
0.000196 - SELECT * FROM modules WHERE dirname = 'beosnews'
0.000955 - SELECT COUNT(*) FROM group_permission WHERE (`gperm_modid` = '48' AND (`gperm_groupid` = '3') AND `gperm_name` = 'beosnews_submit')
0.000235 - SELECT count(*) FROM modules WHERE dirname = 'PDMembers' AND isactive=1
0.000617 - SELECT text, submitter FROM incblock_welcometext ORDER BY RAND() LIMIT 0,1
0.000181 - SELECT * FROM smiles
0.000128 - DELETE FROM online WHERE online_updated < 1735206994
0.000120 - SELECT COUNT(*) FROM online WHERE online_uid=0 AND online_ip=''
0.000103 - UPDATE online SET online_updated = 1735207294, online_module = 44 WHERE online_uid = 0 AND online_ip=''
0.000086 - SELECT online_uid, online_uname FROM online
0.000365 - SELECT uid, uname, user_regdate FROM users WHERE user_regdate >= 1735081200 and level > 0
0.000132 - SELECT uid, uname from users where level > 0 order by uid DESC limit 1
0.001043 - SELECT COUNT(*) FROM users WHERE level > 0
0.000153 - SELECT COUNT(*) FROM session
0.000749 - SELECT u.uid, u.uname, u.email, u.user_viewemail, u.user_avatar, g.name AS groupname FROM groups_users_link l LEFT JOIN users u ON l.uid=u.uid LEFT JOIN groups g ON l.groupid=g.groupid WHERE g.group_type='Admin' ORDER BY l.groupid, u.uid
0.000465 - SELECT * FROM xoopspoll_desc WHERE display=1 ORDER BY weight ASC, end_time DESC
0.000322 - SELECT id FROM partners Where status = 1 ORDER BY hits DESC
0.000230 - SELECT id, url, image, title FROM partners WHERE id=9
0.000201 - SELECT id, url, image, title FROM partners WHERE id=6
0.000195 - SELECT id, url, image, title FROM partners WHERE id=3
0.000192 - SELECT id, url, image, title FROM partners WHERE id=5
0.000192 - SELECT id, url, image, title FROM partners WHERE id=4
0.000136 - SELECT `forum_id`, `forum_name` FROM `bb_forums` WHERE `forum_id` IN ()
Error number: 1064
Error message: You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MariaDB server version for the right syntax to use near ')' at line 1
0.000268 - SELECT cat_title, cat_id FROM bb_categories WHERE cat_id = '4'
0.005391 - SELECT * FROM group_permission WHERE (`gperm_modid` = '44' AND `gperm_name` = 'forum_post')
0.003521 - SELECT * FROM group_permission WHERE (`gperm_modid` = '44' AND `gperm_name` = 'forum_reply')
0.000567 - SELECT * FROM `users` WHERE `uid` IN (1,137,2,9)
0.000432 - SELECT rank_title AS title, rank_image AS image FROM ranks WHERE rank_id = 9
0.000231 - SELECT groupid FROM groups_users_link WHERE uid=1
0.000202 - SELECT * FROM groups WHERE groupid=1
0.000531 - SELECT rank_title AS title, rank_image AS image FROM ranks WHERE rank_min <= 713 AND rank_max >= 713 AND rank_special = 0
0.000243 - SELECT groupid FROM groups_users_link WHERE uid=2
0.000186 - SELECT * FROM groups WHERE groupid=2
0.000172 - SELECT rank_title AS title, rank_image AS image FROM ranks WHERE rank_id = 10
0.000186 - SELECT groupid FROM groups_users_link WHERE uid=9
0.000159 - SELECT * FROM groups WHERE groupid=7
0.000264 - SELECT rank_title AS title, rank_image AS image FROM ranks WHERE rank_min <= 64 AND rank_max >= 64 AND rank_special = 0
0.000194 - SELECT groupid FROM groups_users_link WHERE uid=137
0.000161 - SELECT * FROM groups WHERE groupid=2
0.000469 - SELECT user_digests, uid FROM bb_user_stats WHERE uid IN( 1, 2, 9, 137)
0.002515 - SELECT * FROM group_permission WHERE (`gperm_modid` = '44' AND `gperm_name` = 'forum_edit')
0.001924 - SELECT * FROM group_permission WHERE (`gperm_modid` = '44' AND `gperm_name` = 'forum_delete')
0.003409 - SELECT * FROM group_permission WHERE (`gperm_modid` = '44' AND `gperm_name` = 'forum_reply')
0.000375 - SELECT * FROM group_permission WHERE (`gperm_modid` = '44' AND `gperm_name` = 'forum_print')
0.002980 - SELECT * FROM group_permission WHERE (`gperm_modid` = '44' AND `gperm_name` = 'forum_edit')
0.002168 - SELECT * FROM group_permission WHERE (`gperm_modid` = '44' AND `gperm_name` = 'forum_delete')
0.003723 - SELECT * FROM group_permission WHERE (`gperm_modid` = '44' AND `gperm_name` = 'forum_reply')
0.000579 - SELECT * FROM group_permission WHERE (`gperm_modid` = '44' AND `gperm_name` = 'forum_print')
0.002814 - SELECT * FROM group_permission WHERE (`gperm_modid` = '44' AND `gperm_name` = 'forum_edit')
0.002186 - SELECT * FROM group_permission WHERE (`gperm_modid` = '44' AND `gperm_name` = 'forum_delete')
0.003779 - SELECT * FROM group_permission WHERE (`gperm_modid` = '44' AND `gperm_name` = 'forum_reply')
0.000690 - SELECT * FROM group_permission WHERE (`gperm_modid` = '44' AND `gperm_name` = 'forum_print')
0.002844 - SELECT * FROM group_permission WHERE (`gperm_modid` = '44' AND `gperm_name` = 'forum_edit')
0.002193 - SELECT * FROM group_permission WHERE (`gperm_modid` = '44' AND `gperm_name` = 'forum_delete')
0.003668 - SELECT * FROM group_permission WHERE (`gperm_modid` = '44' AND `gperm_name` = 'forum_reply')
0.000548 - SELECT * FROM group_permission WHERE (`gperm_modid` = '44' AND `gperm_name` = 'forum_print')
0.003104 - SELECT * FROM group_permission WHERE (`gperm_modid` = '44' AND `gperm_name` = 'forum_edit')
0.002455 - SELECT * FROM group_permission WHERE (`gperm_modid` = '44' AND `gperm_name` = 'forum_delete')
0.003693 - SELECT * FROM group_permission WHERE (`gperm_modid` = '44' AND `gperm_name` = 'forum_reply')
0.000607 - SELECT * FROM group_permission WHERE (`gperm_modid` = '44' AND `gperm_name` = 'forum_print')
0.002791 - SELECT * FROM group_permission WHERE (`gperm_modid` = '44' AND `gperm_name` = 'forum_edit')
0.002236 - SELECT * FROM group_permission WHERE (`gperm_modid` = '44' AND `gperm_name` = 'forum_delete')
0.003719 - SELECT * FROM group_permission WHERE (`gperm_modid` = '44' AND `gperm_name` = 'forum_reply')
0.000551 - SELECT * FROM group_permission WHERE (`gperm_modid` = '44' AND `gperm_name` = 'forum_print')
0.002746 - SELECT * FROM group_permission WHERE (`gperm_modid` = '44' AND `gperm_name` = 'forum_edit')
0.002182 - SELECT * FROM group_permission WHERE (`gperm_modid` = '44' AND `gperm_name` = 'forum_delete')
0.003651 - SELECT * FROM group_permission WHERE (`gperm_modid` = '44' AND `gperm_name` = 'forum_reply')
0.000663 - SELECT * FROM group_permission WHERE (`gperm_modid` = '44' AND `gperm_name` = 'forum_print')
0.003109 - SELECT * FROM group_permission WHERE (`gperm_modid` = '44' AND `gperm_name` = 'forum_edit')
0.002194 - SELECT * FROM group_permission WHERE (`gperm_modid` = '44' AND `gperm_name` = 'forum_delete')
0.003738 - SELECT * FROM group_permission WHERE (`gperm_modid` = '44' AND `gperm_name` = 'forum_reply')
0.000603 - SELECT * FROM group_permission WHERE (`gperm_modid` = '44' AND `gperm_name` = 'forum_print')
0.000406 - SELECT forum_id, COUNT(*) AS count FROM bb_moderates WHERE (uid=0 OR ip IN('3','3.148','3.148.104','3.148.104.103')) AND (mod_end > 1735207294) GROUP BY forum_id
0.003944 - SELECT * FROM group_permission WHERE (`gperm_modid` = '44' AND `gperm_groupid` IN (3) AND `gperm_itemid` = '7' AND `gperm_name` IN ('forum_access', 'forum_view', 'forum_post', 'forum_reply', 'forum_edit', 'forum_delete', 'forum_addpoll', 'forum_vote', 'forum_attach', 'forum_noapprove', 'forum_type', 'forum_html', 'forum_signature', 'forum_pdf', 'forum_print'))
0.002280 - SELECT * FROM group_permission WHERE (`gperm_modid` = '44' AND `gperm_name` = 'forum_addpoll')
0.001559 - SELECT * FROM group_permission WHERE (`gperm_modid` = '44' AND `gperm_name` = 'category_access')
0.000520 - SELECT `cat_id`, `cat_order`, `cat_title` FROM `bb_categories` WHERE `cat_id` IN (8, 9, 5, 4, 10, 17, 2) ORDER BY cat_order ASC
0.005117 - SELECT * FROM group_permission WHERE (`gperm_modid` = '44' AND `gperm_name` = 'forum_reply')
Total: 113
Blocks
Login: Not cached
Main Menu: Not cached
Herzlich Willkommen: Not cached
Usermenü: Not cached
PD-Members: Not cached
Site Info: Not cached
Umfragenblock: Not cached
Google Adsense (klein): Not cached
Partner: Not cached
Total: 9
Extra
Included files: 240 files
Memory usage: 2112592 bytes
Timers
XOOPS took 0.305 seconds to load.
XOOPS Boot took 0.011 seconds to load.
Module init took 0.043 seconds to load.
newBB_Header took 0.004 seconds to load.
newBB_viewtopic took 0.287 seconds to load.
XOOPS output init took 0.035 seconds to load.
Module display took 0.213 seconds to load.
Page rendering took 0.003 seconds to load.