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Re: Via's PT880s: AGP und PCI-E gleichzeitig
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Also wenns so einfach währe 32 echte PciE Lanes auf ein Board zu bekommen und anzusteuern warum gibs des noch nicht?

So bei Nforce 4 Sli wird mit dieser Steckkarte der Zweite PciE Steckplatz erst Aktiviert und bis auf die zwei Graka PciE Steckplätze werden alle anderen PciE Steckplätze deaktiviert.
D.H.: Alle PciE*1 Steckplätze die vorhanden sind werden Deaktieviert denn sonst ja nicht alle 24 Lanes für
Grafikleistung zu Verfügung stehen.

Die AGP-PciE Lösung von Via ist deshalb interessant weil man dafür keine Speziellen Grafikkarten braucht!!(man könnte Theoretisch ne Ati mit Nvidia Karten mischen!!)

Außerdem werden bis heute und auch in näherer Zukunft keine oder nur sehr wenige Anwendungen geben die einen PciE * 16 überhaupt ausnutzen können.

Derzeit ist kein bzw. nur Systembedingte Unterschiede zwischen PciE und AGP.

Posted on: 2005/1/8 21:17
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Re: Via's PT880s: AGP und PCI-E gleichzeitig
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das sind lanes ... es kommen sehr bald welche mit 2*16 lanes raus.

aber bis VIA mit solch einer mainboard rauskommt ...
uiuiui was es da noch geben wird

naja mal gucke was es bald wieder von nforce gibt.

Posted on: 2005/1/8 20:45
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Re: Via's PT880s: AGP und PCI-E gleichzeitig
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naja wenn du aber die derzeitigen pci-e sli lösungen anschaust

dann wirst du erkennen das es wahrscheinlich überhaupt keinen unterschied macht ob du jetzt agp und pci-e oder sli verwendest

grund:
die derzeitigen sli lösungen (nforce 4) haben nicht 32 lance (ich glaub die heißen so) sondern nur 24 dH 16 für den einen pci-e 16fach slot und 8! für den zweiten.

dH es bringt dir nix an leisten, sowieso sind die derzeitigen pci-e karten schwachsinn weil sie keine reinen pci-e karten sind, wie bei den sata platten you know

Posted on: 2005/1/8 18:15
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Re: Via's PT880s: AGP und PCI-E gleichzeitig
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aso verstehe :Clap:

schon genial für entwickler ... jupp ...


aber eben kein Dual PCI-Express fpr SLI karten

Posted on: 2005/1/8 18:12
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Re: Via's PT880s: AGP und PCI-E gleichzeitig
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ach hermylein

hast du dir den link durchgelesen, GLEICHZEITIG!! dH PCI-E UND AGP zur gleichen zeit nutzen auf dem gleichen pc

@marshy: naja du hast ja dann bis zu 4 bildschirme zur verfügung was sicherlich geil ist beim developen zB da braucht man immer platz oder einfach zum arbeiten so kannst mehrer tasks wirklich gleichzeitig machen.

wie auch auf den screenshots in der url zu sehen, inwiefern die doppelt soschnell laufen weiß ich nicht, aber da beide gleichzeitig laufen und jede karte die hälfte der rechenleistung übernimmt (steht alles in der url übrigens) ist die leistung locker doppelt so schnell.

naja das board ist insofern geil weil

1. das einzige dass das kann
2. fürs updaten absolut genial, weil ich nicht gleich eine pci-e karte kaufen MUSS sondern meine agp mal weiterverwenden kann aber dann auch mal eine günstige pci-e dazukaufen und dann hab ich trotzdem die doppelte leistung

dH für "wenig" geld die doppelte leistung, ist doch was.

Posted on: 2005/1/8 17:46
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Re: Via's PT880s: AGP und PCI-E gleichzeitig
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naja ich denke mal das es entweder oder ist?! schätze ich mal! sprich netweder agp karte oder pci-e

Posted on: 2005/1/8 17:23
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Re: Via's PT880s: AGP und PCI-E gleichzeitig
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aha,
laufen dann z.B.

1. 9800 pro mit PCI-Express (theoretisch)
2. 9800 pro mit AGP

doppelt so schnell als eine 9800er ?

ne oder ? :???:


PS:
ich versteh den sinn nicht wenn man AGP und PCI-E betreiben will -gleichzeitig- !
man braucht ja dann auch theoretisch 2 mäuse und 2 tastaturen :???:

PS:
ich mag aber trotzdem nforce mehr ... vorallem die Nforce 4 :Clap:

Posted on: 2005/1/8 14:25

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Re: Via's PT880s: AGP und PCI-E gleichzeitig
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ist das geil! *gg* naja sli ist ja noch nicht mal zu 100% einsatzfähig, aber wow, respekt an via!

Posted on: 2005/1/8 14:18
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Via's PT880s: AGP und PCI-E gleichzeitig
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so in zeiten wo alle von SLI reden ist es unglaublich was VIA bald rausbringen wird :Smallexcla:

eigentlich war auch grad auf der via seite um bezüglich neuen treiben zu gucken und dann sehen ich folgende überschrift

PCI-E and AGP at the same time
geil oder?

scheiß auf SLI, ne im ernst also die japse spinnen (positiv gemeint)

hier ein bild, das ich nicht blödsinn quatsche


na gut zusehen pci-express UND AGP.

Das ist ein Test-Board für den neuen P4 Chipsatz mit dem Namen PT880s.

aber lest selbst genaueres
KLICK hier für AGP & PCI-E

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Total: 117
Blocks
Login: Not cached
Main Menu: Not cached
Herzlich Willkommen: Not cached
Usermenü: Not cached
PD-Members: Not cached
Site Info: Not cached
Umfragenblock: Not cached
Google Adsense (klein): Not cached
Partner: Not cached
Total: 9
Extra
Included files: 239 files
Memory usage: 2133576 bytes
Timers
XOOPS took 0.337 seconds to load.
XOOPS Boot took 0.012 seconds to load.
Module init took 0.034 seconds to load.
newBB_Header took 0.004 seconds to load.
newBB_viewtopic took 0.318 seconds to load.
XOOPS output init took 0.040 seconds to load.
Module display took 0.248 seconds to load.
Page rendering took 0.003 seconds to load.