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Re: Neue Festplatte
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Diese Woche müsste das Board eintrudlen anschließend der Prozessor und die Graka, dann habe ich mein neues SYS zusammendas auch mit NCQ zurechtkommen sollte.(NF4ULTRA)Muss dann nur noch die Finanzen kontntrolieren, und kann mir dann eine 80Gb Festplatte mit NCQ technologie kaufen.Mal sehn, was das bringen wird.

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Posted on: 2005/2/8 15:01
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marshy deine liste ist zwar schön und gut

nur zwei probleme gibs - ich kann nachwievor mit diesem sone nix anfangen - ich weiß alle magazine sind soo geil auf das sone

naja aber was mich eigentlich stört ist das ihr verschieden große festplatte untersucht worden sind, hier muss ich schon mal maxtor unter schutz nehmen (einwenig)

nur maxtor und hitachit wurden hier mit einerm 250 gigabyte platte getestet und diese großen festplatten sind nun mal urr laut - hab selsbt eine 160iger maxtor und die ist schon ziemlich laut aber auch groß

naja und hitachi - wir wissen ja alle wie lange die halten +

zu ncq - das wird es erst standard-mässig geben sobald erste chipsätze auch den sata-2 standard unterstützen und dann natürlich die festplatten herstellen ihre festplatten auch damit ausstatten.

derzeit machen das NUR Seagate und Maxtor.

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Re: Neue Festplatte
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Samsung SpinPoint 1614C 160GB: 1,6 Sone/2,6 Sone
Hitatchi Deskstar 7K250 250GB: 2,2 Sone/3,8 Sone
Seagate Barracude 7200.7 160GB: 2,3 Sone/6 Sone
WD Raptor 74GB: 3 Sone/5,4 Sone
Maxtor DiamondMax 10 250GB: 3,1 Sone/5 Sone

Quelle: www.chip.de


Samsung = gut und leise, aber stimmt, wart auf das neue Native Command Queuing, wird sicher geil :Clap:


und finger weg von IBM/HITACHI

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Re: Neue Festplatte
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naja von hitachi würd ich dir aber dringend abraten - einfach persönliche erfahrungen

naja der sata-II standard wird viele neuerungen mit sich bringen und verspricht mehr speed bei allen platten

mal schaun was kommt

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Re: Neue Festplatte
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@Korbi
Sehr gut geantwortet wollte auch heute eine Antwort schreiben hatte aber bis jetzt kein Zeit dazu.
Man kann im ganzen dazu sagen, dass es die vorübergehende Lösung ist, bis Hitachi ihre erste S-ATAII Platte auf den Markt bringt, doch mal sehn, ob das wirklich einen gösseren Performance schub bring,ich werde mir jedfalls eine Seagate NCQ mit 80GB holen.(NF4Ultra Mobo ist schon auf den Weg.)
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Posted on: 2005/2/7 19:47
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also zu ncq

zuerst wird ncq nur von maxtor und seagate verwendet - also NICHT samsung

da die zwei firmen wester-digital aufholen wollen vom speed

weiters können derzeit nur zwei chipsätze am markt ncq der eine ist der Intel ICH6R (southbridge) und der Nforce4-Chipsatz.

daher brauchst du erstmal ein athlon 64 system mit einem nforce 4 mainboard.

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NCQ: Native Command Queuing - System, das bei Serial-ATA-Platten Zugriffe optimieren soll
(Quelle: PC Games Hardware 03/05)

in der aktuellen PC Games Hardware Ausgabe (03/05) wurde die technik getestet und dabei sind die Maxtor bzw Seagte Platten der 10.000 WD überlegen (obwohl die maxtor und seagte platten mit 7200 gedreht werden)

wobei hier die seagate die schnellste von den zwei (maxtor und seagte) im test war.

NCQ soll am dem SATA-II Standard zum standard gehören, NCQ optimiert im prinzip die befehlreichenfolge der festplatten bei ihren arbeiten

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Re: Neue Festplatte
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aso ...
hab in HW luxx seit einem jahr ca. 60 beiträge :Grind:

aber back 2 topic,

was ist NCQ ?
ist es die spezielle scsi funktion, die es auch für
S-ATA gibt dass daten auch irgendwie "rückwerts" gelesen werden ?


PS:
bitte nicht haun, ich kenn mich mit festplatten nit aus, weiß aber dass die samsung 1614er serie mit 8 MB cache super schell und super leise ist !

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Bin nicht mehr so oft hw luxx Nick bei hw-luux ist Holding
aber wirst sehn, dass ich da nicht sehr aktiv bin.

Einfach wenig Zeit und arbeit geht vor.

MfG
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Posted on: 2005/2/6 21:00
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Re: Neue Festplatte
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ja ich bin der MASTER STYX aus

-P3D
-oc.at
-hw luxx (wo ich mich daneben benehme *g* :D )
-3d c
-KM
-XS ...


:Thumbsup:

und unter welchem nick bist du bei hw luxx ?

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Du bist aber nicht der MASTER STYX aus den HArdwareluxxforum oder?

Posted on: 2005/2/6 14:41
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0.002716 - SELECT * FROM group_permission WHERE (`gperm_modid` = '44' AND `gperm_name` = 'forum_edit')
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Total: 117
Blocks
Login: Not cached
Main Menu: Not cached
Herzlich Willkommen: Not cached
Usermenü: Not cached
PD-Members: Not cached
Site Info: Not cached
Umfragenblock: Not cached
Google Adsense (klein): Not cached
Partner: Not cached
Total: 9
Extra
Included files: 240 files
Memory usage: 2130768 bytes
Timers
XOOPS took 0.416 seconds to load.
XOOPS Boot took 0.008 seconds to load.
Module init took 0.035 seconds to load.
newBB_Header took 0.002 seconds to load.
newBB_viewtopic took 0.404 seconds to load.
XOOPS output init took 0.029 seconds to load.
Module display took 0.341 seconds to load.
Page rendering took 0.003 seconds to load.