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so um die diskussion aus dem anderen thread etwas herauszunehmen hier der extra thread zum thema:


und hier mein senf zum thema, mein kommentar schließt direkt an marshy's an

guter ansatz

also prinzipiel ist konkurrenz immer super, das problem das wir in der edv langsam bekommen ist einfach das wir an die grenzen der derzeitigen technologie stoßen.

wenn man sich zB den kampf zwischen amd und intel ansicht sind beide prozesorren gleich gut, da entscheidet einzig und allein der käufer und der kauft in der hinsicht immer das was am günstigens für ihn kommt.

bei den grafikkarten sieht die situation gottseidank ja etwas lockerer aus, bei einem cpu wechsel muss man immer zuerst schaun welches mainboard man hat (was ja vor einigen jahren noch nicht so war) sonst würde das aufrüsten zu teuer.

und da jetzt amd auch anfängt ihre sockets wie ihre unterwäsche zu tauschen werd ich mir das aufrüsten sicherlich dreimal überlegen, den für was ein board kaufen für das ich in einem 1 bis 2 jahren keinen prozi mehr bekomme das war der größte fehler zB den intel gemacht hatte zwischen pentium 2 bis 4 haben sie mehrmals den sockel gewechselt.

das problem ist einfach dann wenn man zB hardware verkauft das der kunde sich auch fragt "na toll jetzt hab ich grad die teuren rambus gekauft und jetzt gibs kein aktuelles board mit rambus" das sind so sachen die einfach dämlich sind - meiner meinung.

aber so wie es langsam scheint werden die firmen langsam etwas schlauer vielleicht wegen den apple hype? ist einfach nicht wichtig wie oft ich meine hardware-anbindung ändert wenn sie doch sowieso funktioniert.

wenn man bedenkt wie wenig leistungsgewinn oft damit verbunden ist eine neue hardware anzuschaffen ich meine 5% sind keine welt und die bekommt man mit einer guten konfiguration auch raus dafür brauch ich keine extra teure hardware.

zu den grafikkarten jetzt aber
nvidia und ati sind zwar direkte konkurrenten und beide sind gleich auf - was für die zwei firmen zwar toll ist und auch für die normalen endkunden nur leider unterscheiden sich die karten im high-end bereich kaum noch von ihrer leistung und auch kaum vom preis.

für den preis ist es insofern toll den weder nvidia noch ati können irgendwelche hollywood preise machen für ihre hardware wenn der konkurrent nicht auch mitmacht. und das ist der unterschied creative hat keine konkurrenz deshalb können sie ihre soundkarten auch eignetlich so teuer machen wie sie es grad wollen.

die konkurrenz von creative sind eigentlich die onboard-lösungen, die sich ja in den letzten jahren nach langem endlich durchgesetzt haben - den am anfang waren die lösungen eher schlecht als recht. damals hatte man noch gesagt kauf eine creative die kostet nicht viel (irgendeine günstige) die ist besser als der onboard-sound. nun mittlerweile haben die onboard alles was man braucht.

und creative kann nur kunden locken (normale enduser) wenn sie auch ein halbwegs konkurrenz fähiges produkt rausbringen - naja okay produkt ist schlecht formuliert also einen halbwegs guten preis fürs produkt

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0.000270 - SELECT count(*) FROM modules WHERE dirname = 'PDMembers' AND isactive=1
0.000638 - SELECT text, submitter FROM incblock_welcometext ORDER BY RAND() LIMIT 0,1
0.000265 - SELECT * FROM smiles
0.000265 - DELETE FROM online WHERE online_updated < 1713866092
0.000292 - SELECT COUNT(*) FROM online WHERE online_uid=0 AND online_ip=''
0.000301 - UPDATE online SET online_updated = 1713866392, online_module = 44 WHERE online_uid = 0 AND online_ip=''
0.000221 - SELECT online_uid, online_uname FROM online
0.001635 - SELECT uid, uname, user_regdate FROM users WHERE user_regdate >= 1713736800 and level > 0
0.000294 - SELECT uid, uname from users where level > 0 order by uid DESC limit 1
0.000934 - SELECT COUNT(*) FROM users WHERE level > 0
0.000153 - SELECT COUNT(*) FROM session
0.000872 - SELECT u.uid, u.uname, u.email, u.user_viewemail, u.user_avatar, g.name AS groupname FROM groups_users_link l LEFT JOIN users u ON l.uid=u.uid LEFT JOIN groups g ON l.groupid=g.groupid WHERE g.group_type='Admin' ORDER BY l.groupid, u.uid
0.000351 - SELECT * FROM xoopspoll_desc WHERE display=1 ORDER BY weight ASC, end_time DESC
0.000269 - SELECT id FROM partners Where status = 1 ORDER BY hits DESC
0.000198 - SELECT id, url, image, title FROM partners WHERE id=9
0.000177 - SELECT id, url, image, title FROM partners WHERE id=3
0.000178 - SELECT id, url, image, title FROM partners WHERE id=5
0.000157 - SELECT id, url, image, title FROM partners WHERE id=6
0.000151 - SELECT id, url, image, title FROM partners WHERE id=4
0.000197 - SELECT cat_title, cat_id FROM bb_categories WHERE cat_id = '4'
0.003829 - SELECT * FROM group_permission WHERE (`gperm_modid` = '44' AND `gperm_name` = 'forum_post')
0.003129 - SELECT * FROM group_permission WHERE (`gperm_modid` = '44' AND `gperm_name` = 'forum_reply')
0.000488 - SELECT * FROM `users` WHERE `uid` IN (1)
0.000234 - SELECT rank_title AS title, rank_image AS image FROM ranks WHERE rank_id = 9
0.000240 - SELECT groupid FROM groups_users_link WHERE uid=1
0.000190 - SELECT * FROM groups WHERE groupid=1
0.000216 - SELECT user_digests, uid FROM bb_user_stats WHERE uid IN( 1)
0.002380 - SELECT * FROM group_permission WHERE (`gperm_modid` = '44' AND `gperm_name` = 'forum_edit')
0.002552 - SELECT * FROM group_permission WHERE (`gperm_modid` = '44' AND `gperm_name` = 'forum_delete')
0.004106 - SELECT * FROM group_permission WHERE (`gperm_modid` = '44' AND `gperm_name` = 'forum_reply')
0.000434 - SELECT * FROM group_permission WHERE (`gperm_modid` = '44' AND `gperm_name` = 'forum_print')
0.000464 - SELECT forum_id, COUNT(*) AS count FROM bb_moderates WHERE (uid=0 OR ip IN('18','18.117','18.117.196','18.117.196.184')) AND (mod_end > 1713866392) GROUP BY forum_id
0.004555 - SELECT * FROM group_permission WHERE (`gperm_modid` = '44' AND `gperm_groupid` IN (3) AND `gperm_itemid` = '4' AND `gperm_name` IN ('forum_access', 'forum_view', 'forum_post', 'forum_reply', 'forum_edit', 'forum_delete', 'forum_addpoll', 'forum_vote', 'forum_attach', 'forum_noapprove', 'forum_type', 'forum_html', 'forum_signature', 'forum_pdf', 'forum_print'))
0.001302 - SELECT * FROM group_permission WHERE (`gperm_modid` = '44' AND `gperm_name` = 'forum_addpoll')
0.000875 - SELECT * FROM group_permission WHERE (`gperm_modid` = '44' AND `gperm_name` = 'category_access')
0.000301 - SELECT `cat_id`, `cat_order`, `cat_title` FROM `bb_categories` WHERE `cat_id` IN (8, 9, 5, 4, 10, 17, 2) ORDER BY cat_order ASC
0.002062 - SELECT * FROM group_permission WHERE (`gperm_modid` = '44' AND `gperm_name` = 'forum_reply')
Total: 75
Blocks
Login: Not cached
Main Menu: Not cached
Herzlich Willkommen: Not cached
Usermenü: Not cached
PD-Members: Not cached
Site Info: Not cached
Umfragenblock: Not cached
Google Adsense (klein): Not cached
Partner: Not cached
Total: 9
Extra
Included files: 240 files
Memory usage: 1880832 bytes
Timers
XOOPS took 0.191 seconds to load.
XOOPS Boot took 0.011 seconds to load.
Module init took 0.062 seconds to load.
newBB_Header took 0.004 seconds to load.
newBB_viewtopic took 0.145 seconds to load.
XOOPS output init took 0.039 seconds to load.
Module display took 0.077 seconds to load.
Page rendering took 0.003 seconds to load.