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Re: konkurrenz belebt das geschäft?!
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ich muss Skilled_sniper absolut recht geben ...
ich kenn noch sehr sehr viel mehr tatsachen was STM ... also den KYRO karten betrifft.
da merkt man as für *piep* ati und nv gemacht hat.

ich sag mal so ...

1. entweder sind ATI u. NV genauso wie AMD u. INTEL soowas von faul dass die keine größeren technologischen fortschritte machen können oder

2. die obersten führungen von den konzernen sprechen sich ab wie sie den größten gewinn machen (und evtl. ein wenig teilen...)


=)

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Re: konkurrenz belebt das geschäft?!
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Konkurrenz ist Schwachsinn und ein Delikt prähistorischer männlicher Auseinandersetzungen (quasi Firmen) um das Balzrecht für das Weibchen (quasi die Kunden) zu erhalten.

Viele naive Menschen glauben doch tatsächlich, dass die Konkurrenz den technischen Fortschritt anspornt. Sehr angenehmer und logischer Gedanke. Vielleicht sollten solche Menschen auch weiterhin bei ihrem gemütlichen Weltbild bleiben und nicht gestört werden. :Clap:

Kokurrenz schafft Arbeitsplätze ? Das Gegenteil ist der Fall. Die Angestellten sind für ein Unternehmen nichts anderes als Kosten. Um in der Konkurrenz zu bestehen und den Gewinn zu maximieren, müssen Kosten gesenkt werden. Wie? Mit massenhaften Entlassungen des "nicht rentablen" hochqualifizierten Personals.

Der wahre technische Fortschritt wird nicht durch irgendwelche Firmenkämpfe erreicht, und schon garned durch deren Vorstände. Können diese fettarschigen Sesselfurzer etwa denken? Hey, seid mal ehrlich zu euch selbst...und vergisst was ihr in der Schule gelernt habt ;)

Der Treibende Motor ist der EIFER und der ENTHUSIASMUS der Forscher, der Ingeneure und der Konstrukteure etwas neues zu kreiren, zu erschaffen und zu verbessern. Ein kreativer Mensch versteht, was ich darunter meine.
Die Wahrheit ist, dass diese Menschen häufig mit anderen Entwicklern befreundet sind und Konzepte auf Kosten der eigenen Freizeit gemeinsam weiterentwickeln. Nur werden diese Konzepte von den allzu macht- und geldhungrigen Firmen als eine Errungenschaft ihrer "Firmenstruktur" propagiert, womit die Mühen der eigentlichen Väter und Mütter unserer Hard- und Software im Mülleimer der Geschichte landen.

Hat jemand den Wettstreit zwischen Nvidia, ATI und den Entwicklern des Kyrochips mitverfoglt ? Die noch unausgereiften Chips Kyro und KyroII litten unter Geldmangel, doch die Ingeneure der Firma gaben nicht auf und entwickelten den Chip gar aus eigener Tasche(!) weiter. Das Prinzip des "Hidden-Surface-Removal" ist nach wie vor revolutionär, klar es gab Bugs, Fehler etc. - üblicher Entstehungsverlauf; doch gerade HSR im Endstadium bedrohte die Wölfe ATI und seinen Kokurrenten, der übrigens bald keiner ist ;)
Die sonst so "konkurrenzbewußten" Hardwareschmieden schlossen sich plötzlich zusammen und verklagten Kyro zig Male aufgrund angeblicher Patentverletzungen. Wäre eigentlich kein großes Problem, denn Kyro hat, wie es sich später herausstellte, keinlei Patente verletzt.
Nur durfte der Einsteiger, WÄHREND DER GESAMTEN PROZESS- und UNTERSUCHUNGZEIT KEINE NEUE HARDWARE HERSTELLEN....wodurch die Firma natürlich pleite ging.

Soviel zum Thema "Marktbewußtsein", technischer Progress und aufrichtiges "Konkurrenzverhalten"

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Re: konkurrenz belebt das geschäft?!
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ne, kunden von einer firma würden nur sachen nachkaufen, die viel besser sind als die, die sie schon besitzen ...

sonst könnte ein konkurenzloses unternehmen nicht überleben... immer wieder sich selber übertreffen

Posted on: 2005/8/4 8:20
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Re: konkurrenz belebt das geschäft?!
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ich finde ohne konkurenz wäre der Computer hardware nie da wo sie jetzt ist

warum sollte sich intel oder amd egal wer wen keine konkurenz da ist sich anstrenngen was neues zu entwickeln man würde wesentlich weniger forschen und entwickeln


und neue hardware würde noch teurer sein als jetzt man hat ja keine wahl

Posted on: 2005/8/4 4:39
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hm da hast bis zu einem gewissen punkt recht, nämlich bis zu dem punkt wo die konkurrierde firma eine neue technik auf dem markt bringt.

hier kann man gut den cpu markt hernehmen, anfangs war amd nix mehr als ein intel-clone - keine eigenen entwicklungen, im prinzip nur intel nachbau, nichts weiters.

ich red so von den zeiten zwischen 486 bis zum athlon. erst mit dem athlon hat amd wirklich angefangen eigene technology zu verbauen - die unabhängig von der konkurrenz entwickelt wrude, als zeichen das sie besser sind als die konkurrenz.

den einfachen "kopieren" bringt einem nix weiter auf dauer, man muss schaun das man sich vom konkurrent absetzt - bei den cpu's war's zB die ganzen 3dnow erweiterungen (die nur amd bietet) und die integrierung von intel technik ohne das es ein intel prozessor ist (dazu braucht man viel know-how) und zu guter letzt der (nach dem g5) erste 64-bit prozessor, intel hatte zu dem zeitpunkt keinen massentauglichen 64iger im angebot.

hier hat dann intel amd nachgemacht, zwar hatte intel vorher schon einen 64iger am markt nur der ist nur für server und inkompatible zu der i386 plattform.

Posted on: 2005/8/2 17:11
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Re: konkurrenz belebt das geschäft?!
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aber wenn es konkurenz gibt, dann wartet der eine auf die produkte vom anderen, um zu wissen wie viel "technik" und somit kosten in ihr neueres produkt stecken müssen um ein wenig besser zu sein ...

das bremst.
wenn es diesen punkt nicht geben würde, wäre kunkurenz perfekt ^^

Posted on: 2005/8/2 12:35
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hm da muss ich euch widdersprechen

der einzige grund warum creative neue soundkarten rausbringt ist ein rein wirtschaftlicher und image-mässiger grund.

den wer braucht heutzutage noch eine extra soundkarte? kaum jemand, creative ist aber im prinzip der gründer der soundkarte - creative ist ja eigentlich nur noch ein begriff wegen den soundblaster, deshalb heißt bei creative auch sehr viele soundblaster - damit sind sie berühmt geworden.

ich kenn die klientel von creative nicht, aber ich denk mal das sie einige profi-studios haben die einfach die leistung brauchen, ein heim-user braucht doch nichtmal eine audigy2 (wenn wir mal ehrlich sind)

das dieser neue mega-ultra soundchip von creative so pervers geil ist, liegt mehr daran das creative sehr lange zeit keine neue technik rausgebracht hat den audigy 2 und 4 sind im prinip aufgebohrte audigy 1 karten (einbischen hier tunen und hier und neue produktionsverfahren aber keien neue technology)

und neue ist ja ein komplett neuer audio prozessor und kein neuer aufguss des alten.

in meinen augen wird durch die konkurrenz die entwicklung gefördert, den überlegt mal als unternehmen warum soll ich etwas neues entwickeln wenn ich sowieso marktführer bin? hat ja keinen sinn, dann kann ich mir mit neuerungen auch zeit lassen.

wenn ich aber einen starken bzw ziemlich gleichwärtigen konkurrenz habe dann muss ich schaun, sofern es mir wichtig ist, das ich mit dem konkurrent mithalten kann oder ihm ausbooten kann.

ein unternehmen will ja gewinn machen, daher ist jede neuentwicklung eigentlich nicht gut für was unternehmen weil das zuerst mal millionen kostet - man sieht das oft an den quartalszahlen so 200 millarden minus usw und das einfach nur wegen entwicklungskosten.

das marketing macht sich insofern bezahlt weil dadurch, falls erfolgreich, die verkaufzahlen gesteigert werden und mehr verkaufte ware = mehr umsatz = mehr gewinn = besser ergebnis = glückliche aktionäre (sofern der kurs aufgrund dessen steigt).

@skilled: bitte nehm dich etwas zurück mit gewissen aussagen auf wenn es in der it keinen rassmus gibt (wie auch immer) kann das schnell mal ein rechtsanwalt oder so negativ auffassen und dann bekommen wir probleme und das willst ja nicht oder :Question:

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Ich schließe mich der Meinung von Master-Styx an:

Im Prinzip trägt Kokurrenz nur zu Kosten bei, die Marketingabteilungen müssen Unsummen für Spekulationen, technische Spionage und Imagepolitur ausgeben, nur um nicht im Sumpf dieses "Dogfights" nicht zu ersaufen.

All diese Gelder könnten wesentlich nutzbringeder in technische Innovationen investiert und umgesetzt werden. Styx hat intuitiv die Audioschmiede "Creative" in Betracht gezogen - völlig zurecht und angebracht.

Ein weiteres Beispiel hierfür ist der uns allen gut vertraute Gigant MS, dessen Monopol durchwegs frische Ideen und Konzepte in die Branche bringt, wenn auch auf eine kränkende Weise für die restlichen Mitläufer.
Eine völlige Katastrophe wäre sicherlich ein ebenso mächtiger Konkurrent, wodurch die gesamte Welt in Streiterei und Chaos aufgrund unpassender Standards versinken würde.

Bitte erzäht mir ned, Apple sei Konkurrenz für MS. Nein. Nachdem Gates seinem Jugendfreund erneut ein paar Millionen Almosen spendierte, wendete sich IBM von Apple endgültig ab und verweigerte die zukünfigte Herstellung von G5-Prozessoren...
Damit ist Apple am Ar*ch. Doch noch bevor Jobs seinen letzten Abschiedskuss verabreichte, stieg der fernöstliche Levono in das Geschäft ein. Abkömmling aus dem fruchtbaren gelben Dreck Chinas - eine weitere Missgeburt in der Ehe zwischen IBM und der schlitzäugigen Volksrepublik. (das ist nicht etwa rassistisch; Rassismus exestiert in IT nicht)

Wenn ATI und Nvidia auf dem Grafikmarkt nicht länger zynisch lamen würden, hätten wir nicht mit R520, sondern mit einem weitaus fähigeren Beschleuniger zu tun.

PS: Den Firmen bei der Konkurrierung beobachten kann sehr unterhaltsam sein

Posted on: 2005/8/1 2:36
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ich weiß ich weiß das prozessor mega geil ist, hab da einiges von gelesen damals bei der ersten vorstellung hört sich wirklich geil an und ich bin sehr gespannt und wenns nicht alzu teuer wird werd ich mir wohl son teil holen.

creative hat den, ich sag mal vorteil, das sie nicht von den normalen endkunden leben sondern eher von den soundstudios usw. also eher die profi ecke. den das wirklich geld machen sie sicherlich mit ihrem platinum karten und nicht mit den "billig" karten (also vom preis her) - meine einschätzung jetzt mal.

das rennen zwischen ati und nvidia ist im prinzip ja das gleiche wie bei intel und amd. nur beide firmen machen eher das geld im b-2-b bereich - den die wenigstens brauchen wirklich eine 6800-gt-im dual modus, welcher normale mensch und gamer braucht sowas? jetzt mal vom verkaufsstandpunkt beachtet.

die masse kauft doch eher die middle-ware und nicht die high-end geräte, im grafik bereich glaub ich auch weniger das die karten dort wirklich benötigt werden ich schätz da werden wohl mächtigere karten verwenden wenn überhaupt ich schätz da werden wird wohl mehr auf großrechner und ihre rechenleistung gezählt als auf grafikpower.

den die eigentliche power die die karten haben sind im direct3d bereich und das ist eben microsoft und im grafikbereich wird kaum mit microsoft software gearbeitet und wir kennen alle die schwächen im opengl bereich der grafikkarten - das ist schon sehr lange so.

also dieser "kampf" zwischen den firmen geht weniger um die kunden sondern mehr ums image, wenn ati jetzt nvidia ziehen lassen würde - bekäme nvidia zB einen gewissen kultfactor (wie damals 3dfx - die ja keinerlei konkurrenz hatten wirklich) nur passt das ati eben nicht da sie selbst gern die besseren sein möchten. (kann man natürlich die namen vertauschen wie man möchte )

also das ist eher wegen image und das man eben mit der konkurrenz mithalten kann, das hat weniger mit umsatz oder anderen aspekten zu tun.

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der neuste Soundprozessor von creative wird bestimmt nicht sehr viel kosten, da sonst die nachfrage zu gering ist.

den größten umsatz macht ein unternehmen wenn es am meisten nachfrager zu einem höhsten preis gibt ...

ein auszug mit ein paar technischen daten zum Creative X-FI

"The Creative X-Fi Xtreme Fidelity audio processor represents a major breakthrough in audio technology that provides dramatic improvements to the recording and playback of music, movies and PC games. It has more than 51 million transistors, and is capable of 10,000+ MIPS. The Creative X-Fi Xtreme Fidelity audio processor is 24 times more powerful than its predecessor, and is designed with multiple engines, so it can dynamically direct resources through a modular architecture to completely change the way audio is managed for any application. The Creative X-Fi Xtreme Fidelity audio processor provides key modes that are optimized for experiences with MP3 music, gaming, movies and audio creation. Each mode is configured to dynamically dedicate the processor’s power to deliver only the features, quality and capabilities that the user requires."

"Der neue Chip verarbeitet bis zu 4096 Audiokanäle."

das hört sich noch leistung an :Thumbsup:

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Warning: Use of undefined constant _ALBM_BNAME_RANDOM - assumed '_ALBM_BNAME_RANDOM' (this will throw an Error in a future version of PHP) in file /modules/myalbum1/xoops_version.php line 63
Warning: Use of undefined constant _ALBM_BNAME_RECENT - assumed '_ALBM_BNAME_RECENT' (this will throw an Error in a future version of PHP) in file /modules/myalbum1/xoops_version.php line 72
Warning: Use of undefined constant _ALBM_BNAME_HITS - assumed '_ALBM_BNAME_HITS' (this will throw an Error in a future version of PHP) in file /modules/myalbum1/xoops_version.php line 81
Warning: Use of undefined constant _ALBM_BNAME_RECENT_P - assumed '_ALBM_BNAME_RECENT_P' (this will throw an Error in a future version of PHP) in file /modules/myalbum1/xoops_version.php line 90
Warning: Use of undefined constant _ALBM_BNAME_HITS_P - assumed '_ALBM_BNAME_HITS_P' (this will throw an Error in a future version of PHP) in file /modules/myalbum1/xoops_version.php line 99
Warning: Use of undefined constant _ALBM_TEXT_SMNAME1 - assumed '_ALBM_TEXT_SMNAME1' (this will throw an Error in a future version of PHP) in file /modules/myalbum1/xoops_version.php line 114
Warning: Use of undefined constant _ALBM_TEXT_SMNAME2 - assumed '_ALBM_TEXT_SMNAME2' (this will throw an Error in a future version of PHP) in file /modules/myalbum1/xoops_version.php line 122
Warning: Use of undefined constant _ALBM_TEXT_SMNAME3 - assumed '_ALBM_TEXT_SMNAME3' (this will throw an Error in a future version of PHP) in file /modules/myalbum1/xoops_version.php line 125
Warning: Use of undefined constant _MI_MYALBUM_GLOBAL_NOTIFY - assumed '_MI_MYALBUM_GLOBAL_NOTIFY' (this will throw an Error in a future version of PHP) in file /modules/myalbum1/xoops_version.php line 452
Warning: Use of undefined constant _MI_MYALBUM_GLOBAL_NOTIFYDSC - assumed '_MI_MYALBUM_GLOBAL_NOTIFYDSC' (this will throw an Error in a future version of PHP) in file /modules/myalbum1/xoops_version.php line 453
Warning: Use of undefined constant _MI_MYALBUM_CATEGORY_NOTIFY - assumed '_MI_MYALBUM_CATEGORY_NOTIFY' (this will throw an Error in a future version of PHP) in file /modules/myalbum1/xoops_version.php line 456
Warning: Use of undefined constant _MI_MYALBUM_CATEGORY_NOTIFYDSC - assumed '_MI_MYALBUM_CATEGORY_NOTIFYDSC' (this will throw an Error in a future version of PHP) in file /modules/myalbum1/xoops_version.php line 457
Warning: Use of undefined constant _MI_MYALBUM_PHOTO_NOTIFY - assumed '_MI_MYALBUM_PHOTO_NOTIFY' (this will throw an Error in a future version of PHP) in file /modules/myalbum1/xoops_version.php line 463
Warning: Use of undefined constant _MI_MYALBUM_PHOTO_NOTIFYDSC - assumed '_MI_MYALBUM_PHOTO_NOTIFYDSC' (this will throw an Error in a future version of PHP) in file /modules/myalbum1/xoops_version.php line 464
Warning: Use of undefined constant _MI_MYALBUM_GLOBAL_NEWPHOTO_NOTIFY - assumed '_MI_MYALBUM_GLOBAL_NEWPHOTO_NOTIFY' (this will throw an Error in a future version of PHP) in file /modules/myalbum1/xoops_version.php line 471
Warning: Use of undefined constant _MI_MYALBUM_GLOBAL_NEWPHOTO_NOTIFYCAP - assumed '_MI_MYALBUM_GLOBAL_NEWPHOTO_NOTIFYCAP' (this will throw an Error in a future version of PHP) in file /modules/myalbum1/xoops_version.php line 472
Warning: Use of undefined constant _MI_MYALBUM_GLOBAL_NEWPHOTO_NOTIFYDSC - assumed '_MI_MYALBUM_GLOBAL_NEWPHOTO_NOTIFYDSC' (this will throw an Error in a future version of PHP) in file /modules/myalbum1/xoops_version.php line 473
Warning: Use of undefined constant _MI_MYALBUM_GLOBAL_NEWPHOTO_NOTIFYSBJ - assumed '_MI_MYALBUM_GLOBAL_NEWPHOTO_NOTIFYSBJ' (this will throw an Error in a future version of PHP) in file /modules/myalbum1/xoops_version.php line 475
Warning: Use of undefined constant _MI_MYALBUM_CATEGORY_NEWPHOTO_NOTIFY - assumed '_MI_MYALBUM_CATEGORY_NEWPHOTO_NOTIFY' (this will throw an Error in a future version of PHP) in file /modules/myalbum1/xoops_version.php line 479
Warning: Use of undefined constant _MI_MYALBUM_CATEGORY_NEWPHOTO_NOTIFYCAP - assumed '_MI_MYALBUM_CATEGORY_NEWPHOTO_NOTIFYCAP' (this will throw an Error in a future version of PHP) in file /modules/myalbum1/xoops_version.php line 480
Warning: Use of undefined constant _MI_MYALBUM_CATEGORY_NEWPHOTO_NOTIFYDSC - assumed '_MI_MYALBUM_CATEGORY_NEWPHOTO_NOTIFYDSC' (this will throw an Error in a future version of PHP) in file /modules/myalbum1/xoops_version.php line 481
Warning: Use of undefined constant _MI_MYALBUM_CATEGORY_NEWPHOTO_NOTIFYSBJ - assumed '_MI_MYALBUM_CATEGORY_NEWPHOTO_NOTIFYSBJ' (this will throw an Error in a future version of PHP) in file /modules/myalbum1/xoops_version.php line 483
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Warning: Use of undefined constant _MI_TUTORIALS_DESC - assumed '_MI_TUTORIALS_DESC' (this will throw an Error in a future version of PHP) in file /modules/tutorials/xoops_version.php line 4
Warning: Use of undefined constant _MI_TUTORIALS_SMNAME1 - assumed '_MI_TUTORIALS_SMNAME1' (this will throw an Error in a future version of PHP) in file /modules/tutorials/xoops_version.php line 54
Unknown: define(): Declaration of case-insensitive constants is deprecated in file /modules/newbb/language/english/modinfo.php line 121
Unknown: define(): Declaration of case-insensitive constants is deprecated in file /modules/newbb/language/english/modinfo.php line 221
Warning: Use of undefined constant _MI_KUHT_NAME - assumed '_MI_KUHT_NAME' (this will throw an Error in a future version of PHP) in file /modules/spotlight/xoops_version.php line 29
Warning: Use of undefined constant _MI_KUHT_DESC - assumed '_MI_KUHT_DESC' (this will throw an Error in a future version of PHP) in file /modules/spotlight/xoops_version.php line 31
Warning: Use of undefined constant _MI_KUHT_BNAME - assumed '_MI_KUHT_BNAME' (this will throw an Error in a future version of PHP) in file /modules/spotlight/xoops_version.php line 62
Warning: Use of undefined constant _MI_KUHT_BNAME1 - assumed '_MI_KUHT_BNAME1' (this will throw an Error in a future version of PHP) in file /modules/spotlight/xoops_version.php line 71
Warning: Use of undefined constant _MB_INCBLOCKS_WELCOME - assumed '_MB_INCBLOCKS_WELCOME' (this will throw an Error in a future version of PHP) in file /modules/incblocks/blocks/menuwelcome.php line 15
Notice: Trying to access array offset on value of type null in file /modules/PDMembers/blocks/PDMembers_block.php line 32
Notice: Undefined index: user_regdate in file /modules/PDMembers/blocks/PDMembers_block.php line 94
Warning: count(): Parameter must be an array or an object that implements Countable in file /modules/PDMembers/blocks/PDMembers_block.php line 94
Warning: Database updates are not allowed during processing of a GET request in file /class/database/mysqldatabase.php line 520
Warning: include_once(/modules/xoopspoll/language/english/main.php): failed to open stream: No such file or directory in file /modules/xoopspoll/blocks/xoopspoll.php line 33
Warning: include_once(): Failed opening '/modules/xoopspoll/language/english/main.php' for inclusion (include_path='.:/usr/share/php') in file /modules/xoopspoll/blocks/xoopspoll.php line 33
Unknown: Function get_magic_quotes_gpc() is deprecated in file /class/libraries/vendor/xoops/xmf/src/Xmf/Request.php line 120
Unknown: Function get_magic_quotes_gpc() is deprecated in file /class/libraries/vendor/xoops/xmf/src/Xmf/Request.php line 120
Unknown: Function get_magic_quotes_gpc() is deprecated in file /class/libraries/vendor/xoops/xmf/src/Xmf/Request.php line 120
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Unknown: Function get_magic_quotes_gpc() is deprecated in file /class/module.textsanitizer.php line 537
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Unknown: Function get_magic_quotes_gpc() is deprecated in file /class/module.textsanitizer.php line 537
Unknown: Function get_magic_quotes_gpc() is deprecated in file /class/libraries/vendor/xoops/xmf/src/Xmf/Request.php line 120
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Unknown: Function get_magic_quotes_gpc() is deprecated in file /class/libraries/vendor/xoops/xmf/src/Xmf/Request.php line 120
Unknown: Function get_magic_quotes_gpc() is deprecated in file /class/libraries/vendor/xoops/xmf/src/Xmf/Request.php line 120
Unknown: Function get_magic_quotes_gpc() is deprecated in file /class/libraries/vendor/xoops/xmf/src/Xmf/Request.php line 120
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Unknown: Function get_magic_quotes_gpc() is deprecated in file /class/libraries/vendor/xoops/xmf/src/Xmf/Request.php line 120
Warning: count(): Parameter must be an array or an object that implements Countable in file /home/www/old.pd/pd_data/caches/smarty_compile/68760a1d-newbb-powerdreams1-default^%%5A^5AE^5AECABCD%%db%3Anewbb_viewtopic.tpl.php line 76
Deprecated
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0.001324 - SELECT * FROM group_permission WHERE (gperm_modid = '44' AND gperm_name = 'forum_edit')
0.001075 - SELECT * FROM group_permission WHERE (gperm_modid = '44' AND gperm_name = 'forum_delete')
0.001636 - SELECT * FROM group_permission WHERE (gperm_modid = '44' AND gperm_name = 'forum_reply')
0.000372 - SELECT * FROM group_permission WHERE (gperm_modid = '44' AND gperm_name = 'forum_print')
0.001722 - SELECT * FROM group_permission WHERE (gperm_modid = '44' AND gperm_name = 'forum_edit')
0.001253 - SELECT * FROM group_permission WHERE (gperm_modid = '44' AND gperm_name = 'forum_delete')
0.002289 - SELECT * FROM group_permission WHERE (gperm_modid = '44' AND gperm_name = 'forum_reply')
0.000533 - SELECT * FROM group_permission WHERE (gperm_modid = '44' AND gperm_name = 'forum_print')
0.000558 - SELECT forum_id, COUNT(*) AS count FROM bb_moderates WHERE (uid=0 OR ip IN('18','18.232','18.232.55','18.232.55.103')) AND (mod_end > 1619155822) GROUP BY forum_id
0.003975 - SELECT * FROM group_permission WHERE (gperm_modid = '44' AND gperm_groupid IN (3) AND gperm_itemid = '4' AND gperm_name IN ('forum_access', 'forum_view', 'forum_post', 'forum_reply', 'forum_edit', 'forum_delete', 'forum_addpoll', 'forum_vote', 'forum_attach', 'forum_noapprove', 'forum_type', 'forum_html', 'forum_signature', 'forum_pdf', 'forum_print'))
0.001664 - SELECT * FROM group_permission WHERE (gperm_modid = '44' AND gperm_name = 'forum_addpoll')
0.001007 - SELECT * FROM group_permission WHERE (gperm_modid = '44' AND gperm_name = 'category_access')
0.000453 - SELECT `cat_id`, `cat_order`, `cat_title` FROM `bb_categories` WHERE cat_id IN (8, 9, 5, 4, 10, 17, 2) ORDER BY cat_order ASC
0.001275 - SELECT * FROM group_permission WHERE (gperm_modid = '44' AND gperm_name = 'forum_reply')
Total: 119
Blocks
Login: Not cached
Main Menu: Not cached
Herzlich Willkommen: Not cached
Usermenü: Not cached
PD-Members: Not cached
Site Info: Not cached
Umfragenblock: Not cached
Google Adsense (klein): Not cached
Partner: Not cached
Total: 9
Extra
Included files: 237 files
Memory usage: 2277544 bytes
Timers
XOOPS took 0.505 seconds to load.
XOOPS Boot took 0.007 seconds to load.
Module init took 0.154 seconds to load.
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XOOPS output init took 0.026 seconds to load.
Module display took 0.317 seconds to load.
Page rendering took 0.001 seconds to load.