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Re: Gute und Günste Graka Gesucht
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stimmt, die ist auch saugeil.
musst aber schauen dass du DDR2 speicher druff hast !
die erkennt man meistens an den samsung 2,2 NS speicher.

leider ist die ati bissle teurer als die NV ...

aber die NV5900xt ist auch nicht schlecht für ihren preis.

:Hüpf:

Posted on: 2004/9/10 8:45
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Re: Gute und Günste Graka Gesucht
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Würde dir zu einer 9800pro von MSI Rev.2.0 mit 128mb u. 256bit Speicheranbindung raten hat auch R360 chip daruf genau wie die 9800Xt.

Posted on: 2004/9/9 21:26
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Re: Gute und Günste Graka Gesucht
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ja werd dran denken beim kaufen dann! danke dir :Clap:

Posted on: 2004/8/22 22:06
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Re: Gute und Günste Graka Gesucht
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wie gesagt, die ausfräsung die dein kühler hat stört der kühlleistung bestimmmt nicht, da die DIE oberfläche bestimmt keine 300 mm² hat :D

halterung für die grafikkarte könnte man selber basteln, oder ist vll kaufbar (ich denk schon).


PS:
guckmal auf die NVidia verpackung ob die karte auch wirklich ein 256 BIT-Speicherbus hat. ich bin bei den NV karten nicht soo krass informiert, daher wäre es gut wenn man kurz nachfragt ob die karte auch tatsächlich 256 BIT hat, da es bei den radeon 9800er von ATI auch 128 BIT-speicherbus karten gibt.

Posted on: 2004/8/22 22:04
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ja ich hab den radeon spezial aufsatz! mit der erhöhung das des genau aufliegt!

naja ich muss eh mit meiner frau drüber reden welche SIE schluss endlich im sys haben will, das wird ja ihr spielerechner! ich hab mein baby ja schon! *gg*

trotzdem schon mal danke!

Posted on: 2004/8/22 22:00
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Re: Gute und Günste Graka Gesucht
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ich kann dir keine andere grafikkarte in dem preisbereich empfehlen.
die radeon 9800 pro kostet etwas mehr als die nvidia 5900er XT ist aber auch kaum schneller.
bei ATI karten ist der hersteller den du nimmst egal.
bei NVidia karten gibts da etwas größere unterschiede.
die Leadtek WinFast A350XT TDH ist die günstigste und auch die, die ich dir empfehle.

schon klar dass sich die 9600er XT gut takten lässt, aber die ist auch echt um ehrlich zu sein *piieep*
2 shader einheiten, 4 pipes, 128 bit speicherbus

viel MHZ auf chip bringt wenig was wenn die karte nur 4 pipes hat.

hermy,
wer hat gesagt dass du gleich einen neuen wakü für die graka brauchst ?
naja, kann schon sein dass die halterung nicht ganz so passt, aber schau einfach wie ich mal meine halterung für meine grafikkartenkühler gemacht habe.
eine sehr schöne holzkonstruktion.
wenn der kühlblock ne ausfräsung am rand hat, dann ist es auch egal, da die ausfräsung nicht die kühlung behindert.




PS:
5900 XT rulez

Posted on: 2004/8/22 21:26
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ja nachteile hat die 9600xt ja einige! speicheranbindung 128 bit, 4 pixel pipes usw!

vorteil: sie ist verdammt schnell getaktet von haus aus!
und da ist noch einiges drinne!

sonst noch jemand vorschläge? wenn ich wirklich die 5900 nehmen sollte, dann muss ich mir wieder einen neuen gpu wakü aufsatz holen, aber das ist das mindeste!

von welchem hersteller sollte ich sie denn nehmen?

mal schaun! bin auf weitere infos jederzeit offen!

Posted on: 2004/8/22 19:13
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Re: Gute und Günste Graka Gesucht
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jo der preis ist auch okay von der nvidia, die 5900 ist ja um einiges besser wann mich da nicht alles irrt aber hat da jemand noch einen bench link zum nachgucken?

@hermy: schau sie dir hier an: https://www.geizhals.at/eu/a77868.html
ich an deiner stelle würd sie aus deutschland bestellen ist günstiger

ansonsten ist die 9600xt ist ja auch ein hammerteil, ein bench vergleich würd mich da interessieren zwischen den zwei

Posted on: 2004/8/22 18:26
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Ich würde auch die 5900xt nehmen!
Die Kannste dann zur normalen 5900 oder wenn du glück hast sogar zur ultra flashen!

MFG
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Posted on: 2004/8/22 18:21
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Re: Gute und Günste Graka Gesucht
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die 9600er XT ist schon ok und es gibt keine andere ATi die in frage kommen könnte auser ihr in dem preisbereich.

ABER ich empfehle dir die 5900 XT von NVidia, ich weiß dass du ne ATI lieber hättest als die NV, aber die NV 5900er ist in allen, wirklich in allen bereichen besser als die
9600er von ATI !

9600:
-4 Pipes
-128 BIT speicherbus

5900:
-8 Pipes
-256 BIT speicherbus

und daher ist die 5900er in vielen bereichen doppelt und dreifach schneller

in deutschland gibts die GeForceFX 5900 XT für ca. 150 Euro, und der preis ist echt SUPER für so eine grafikkarte.

ich weiß nicht wie das ganze in ( A ) aussieht, aber in dem preisbereich empfehle ich dir die NV.

Posted on: 2004/8/22 18:11
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Total: 123
Blocks
Login: Not cached
Main Menu: Not cached
Herzlich Willkommen: Not cached
Usermenü: Not cached
PD-Members: Not cached
Site Info: Not cached
Umfragenblock: Not cached
Google Adsense (klein): Not cached
Partner: Not cached
Total: 9
Extra
Included files: 240 files
Memory usage: 2147536 bytes
Timers
XOOPS took 0.618 seconds to load.
XOOPS Boot took 0.012 seconds to load.
Module init took 0.174 seconds to load.
newBB_Header took 0.004 seconds to load.
newBB_viewtopic took 0.600 seconds to load.
XOOPS output init took 0.030 seconds to load.
Module display took 0.400 seconds to load.
Page rendering took 0.002 seconds to load.