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Re: Linux Gaming ?
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Naja bin jetzt an nem Punkt angekommen wo es langsam doof wird -.-

sind ein "paar" Server bei mandrake bei aber das Konfigurieren erfolgt leider nit über ein Interface wie KDE sondern viel mehr über eine Konsole wo man viele viele viele Befehler kennen muss wie es scheint...

will eigentlich nen Cs Server drauf laufen lassen aber ob das irgendwie hinhaut ist was anderes -.-

mal sehn und schön weiter testen und massig Tutorials lesen.

Meine Gründe warum ich Linux nutze :

Das OS braucht weniger Ram und soll sehr stabil sein also für CS Server gut zu gebrauchen.

Ausserdem ists "Freeware" also kostet für personal use nix.

Auf Beos kann man keinen Cs Server laufen lassen oder ? sonst hätte ich das auch mal getestet...

Posted on: 2004/11/16 0:17
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kleine erklärung zu ics:
ics ist ja von windows, und da installiert windows einen "kleinen" dhcp und dns server. deshalb muss man da ja einpaar sachen umstellen bzw werden sie vom windows umgestellt

daher muss das mit jedem betriebssystem funktionieren, den deine netzwerkkarte bekommt vom dhcp in deinem netzwerk (das ist der rechner wo ics läuft) die daten wer der standardgateway ist usw usw

und jede anfrage die der pc selbst nicht beantworten kann wird dann an diesen weitergeleitet, und der schicks dann weiter usw

Posted on: 2004/11/14 20:52
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Re: Linux Gaming ?
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Hier meine ersten Linux erfahrungen:

Linux Mandrake 10.0 heruntergeladen : alles okay
Partitionierung ungewöhnlich (2 Partitionen für LinuX ?) ( wenn man sonst nur Win erfahren ist )
Linux Installiert : alles okay
hmm scheint ganz schön mitm KDE

denn hab ich ICS eingerichtet :Thumbsup: <-- davon bin ich begeistert sehr einfach !

eigentlich wollte ich das ma zum Daddeln testen aber naja hab festgestellt das WIneX umbenannt wurde und jetzt richtig Geld kostet / kosten soll. :gdwh:

Fazit Alles umsonst sogar das Betriebssystem ;D


ne ma im ernst Linux scheint ganz gut zu sein zumindest das Softwarepacket bei Mandrake.

geplant ist jetzt noch : TightVNC server zu installieren und evtl mal nen CS 1.6 Dedicated Server laufen lassen. hab gehört das Linux viel mehr Serverperformance hat im vergleich zu XP

Posted on: 2004/11/14 18:44
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ich hab 1,5 wochen linux getestet und ich finds grausam.
ich hab schon oft den satz gehört

"linux ist was für N00BS, Profis halten ihr Windows sicher"

die sicherheit ist mir bei windows nicht wichtig.
ich werde auch vll auch für windows alle firewalls deinstallen, da ich keine hackerangriffe bis jetzt erlebt hab. also ist das problem mit dem hackern auch kein problem für mich.

was viren angeht,
chip oder so hat mal windows mit linux verglichen, welches OS mehr viren bekommen kann.
es wurde festgestellt dass windows mit einer sehr guten antivirensoftware (G-Data) weniger viren schlucken kann als linux

aber viren sind für mich auch egal,
beim letzen scann hatte ich über 10 stück drauf die ich garnicht bemerkt hab, naja die hätte ich eigendlich auch leben lassen können ^^

ich find windows ist perfekt für:
-gaming
-treibervielfalt (hardware-unterstützung)
-alles andere als server-zeuchs ...

nur weil viele leute MS nicht mögen, heist das schon lange nicht dass windows schlecht ist.

ibu, sorry dass ich etwas vom thema abweiche ...


PS:
hab was nettes gefunden

https://www.heise.de/security/news/meldung/53137

jojo, linux *pfui*

Posted on: 2004/11/12 9:00
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Quote:
linux kann man nur als serverbetriebssystem verwenden, als nichts anderes

Geile Aussage!

Zeigt eigendlich das du keine Ahnung von Linux hast!

Posted on: 2004/11/11 22:41
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Re: Linux Gaming ?
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naja das mit gratis stimmt nur teilweise you know
es gibt ja genauso kaufversionen vom linux bzw distributionen.

also für den privaten zweck gibt linux gratis.

zum thema zurück
spiele unter linux werden nur dann gut laufen wann es wirkliche linux games sind, diese portierungen sind NIE 100% auf das system zugeschnitten. deshalb auch der leistungsverlust.

emulationen wie zB dieses Wine kann dir zwar spiele bzw verhalten einer software simulieren wird dir aber niemals gleiche leistung liefern dH du hast immer einen leistungsverlust

ist ja klar, weil ja wieder ein "stückchen" mehr zwischen software und hardware ist dieser emulator und dadurch wirds langsamer.

Posted on: 2004/11/11 19:45
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Ich denke wenn die Linux noch n stück weiter entwickeln würden so das wirklich die neuen Games richtig speed haben, denn währe das super beliebt zumal es "gratis" im INternet zu bekommen ist und stabil soll es ja immerhin auch sein :D

Posted on: 2004/11/11 19:04
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linux = pest !

linux kann man nur als serverbetriebssystem verwenden, als nichts anderes :gdwh:

... *piep* linux !

Posted on: 2004/11/11 8:17
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jo....die meisten Games, die in der linux-version erscheinen nützen den speed der graka und des systems kaum aus.
Ursache: schlechte treiberprogrammierung bein Nvidia und ATI, angesichts des fremden datei- und verwaltungssystems...

DOOM III gibt es auch in der Linux version, aber man braucht mindestens eine Radeon 9800 Pro/XT um es einingermaßen vernünftig und ruckelfrei spielen zu können.

Zum thema emulatoren: funzt meistens schon, führt jedoch unweigerlich zu bis zu 50% Leistungsverlust in allen 3D anwendungen (OpenGL versteht sich, da kein D3D möglich). Aber ältere games wie UT, C$C AR2 etc. laufen ziemlich gut :Tonguesmile:

Spreche aus erfahrung: linux ist eine top desktop lösung für geschäftigte und workstation, leider aber keine spielplattform.

Posted on: 2004/11/10 23:40
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hab irgendwie das bedürfnis mal Linux zu testen allerdings will ich aufs Gamen nit verzichten und wollte deshalb mal hören wie das damit aussieht ob jemand da so erfahrungen mit hat.

hab schon gelesen das WINeX die Windows Spiele abspielen kann ( alledings hab ich keine ahnung wie gut )

manche Spiele wie UT2003/4 haben die Linux version ja direkt mitgeliefert... wie siehts damit aus ?

Posted on: 2004/11/10 19:04
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Blocks
Login: Not cached
Main Menu: Not cached
Herzlich Willkommen: Not cached
Usermenü: Not cached
PD-Members: Not cached
Site Info: Not cached
Umfragenblock: Not cached
Google Adsense (klein): Not cached
Partner: Not cached
Total: 9
Extra
Included files: 236 files
Memory usage: 2183128 bytes
Timers
XOOPS took 0.302 seconds to load.
XOOPS Boot took 0.006 seconds to load.
Module init took 0.088 seconds to load.
newBB_Header took 0.003 seconds to load.
newBB_viewtopic took 0.252 seconds to load.
XOOPS output init took 0.058 seconds to load.
Module display took 0.149 seconds to load.
Page rendering took 0.002 seconds to load.