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Re: 17\\\" / 19\\\" gaming TFT für ~300 € ?
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in welcher hinsicht hast du ein flimmern?
kannst du die wiederholfrequenz umstellen?

bzw was zeigt dein bildschirm im osd an?

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Habe mir heute einen 19 Zoll tft gekauft. 5 ms 1280 x 1024. Wenn ich DOD Source auf 1024 spiele einwandfrei. Spiele ich CS 1.6 auf 1024 habe ich ein Flimmern beim TFT jemand ne ahnung woran das lieg?? Ne mail wer net an Svenpetersohn@gmx.de

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jo hab nur ma deinen beitrag gesehen von wegen tft fps und so wegen cs.. also ich kann dir kurz sagen wie man mit nem tft und 75hz standardmäßig die 100fps hat..
also du stellst in der config.cfg fps_max "101"
bzw userconfig/autoexec.cfg und dann stellst du je nachdem welche graka du hast vsync aus und dann hast du deine 100fps.

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ich bin auch empfindlich was verzögerung und kontrast zu tun hat...

8 ms = ping von 8

die Hz zahl bei TFTs ist echt egal,
da das bild sich nicht aktualisiert, die bildpunkte leuchten solange, bis die nicht ne neue farbe bekommen ...

also, waYne ob 80 hz oder 100 ^^
die leuten so lange, bis die nicht geändert werden, die pixel

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aha naja hab das alte cs nie gespielt und nie gemocht
daher kann ich nicht mitreden und daher weiß ich nicht wie wichtig das wirklich sein sollte - meiner allgemeinen meinung nach zwar total unwichtig und sinnlos aber wenn du meinst das es wichtig ist beim alten cs dann wirds wohl so sein.

aufjedenfall du wirst KEINEN tft finden der mehr als 85 hz macht - zumindest ist mir keiner bekannt.

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Sorry hab mich wohl unklar ausgedrückt...
Bei CS MUSS ich min 100 FPS haben und VSYNC MUSS an sein, desshalb sollten 100 hz auch einstellbar sein die Auflösung ist dabei nicht das entscheidende aber 1024*768 sollten schon mit 100 hz drin sein !
mir ist klar, das die HZ zahl bei TFTs völlig egal sind flimmert ja eh nicht, aber bei Vsync an, nimmt die FPS immer die Max HZ zahl an und wenn ich halt mit 1024*768 CS daddel hab ich halt max nur 85 FPS.

bei anderen Games wo Vsync nit so wichtig ist isset natürlich geiler mit TFT, aber ich denke wenn ich schon 300 € ausgebe will ich mit dem Produkt auch voll zufrieden sein.
desshalb bleibe ich jetzt wohl doch erstmal bei meinem 21" CRT. :Thumbsup:

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hm wenn du mir verraten würdest was so schlimm daran ist counter-strike mit 1280 zu spielen?

was möchtest den? möchtestn an 19" tft der mehr als 1280 kann? naja dann solltest aber mehr bereit sein auszugeben als 300 € also ich schätz mal so auf das doppelte so das du einen tft bekommst der mehr als 1280 kann egal ob 17, 19, 20, 21 usw zöller

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Re: 17" / 19" gaming TFT für ~300 € ?
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So jungs es gibt neuigkeiten :

Ich hatte den ALDI TFT ein paar tage gehabt.
Hab ihn gekauft, und direkt war mittendrin ein Pixelfehler, denn bin ich hingegangen und hab gesagt, der iss Defekt und hab auch Prompt nen neuen bekommen.

Ich muss sagen eigentlich ist es ein sehr schönes Teil, aber leider zum Zocken total ungeeignet, sind zwar 8ms allerdings grey to grey :(

Jedenfalls hat das teil in meinen Augen ein brilliantes Bild und man kann eigentlich nicht mekkern, sind halt genau so 1280*1024 mit 75 hz, allerdings ist das natürlich für Counterstrike 1.6 scheisse...

Jedenfalls hab ich den TFT jetzt auch wieder komplett zurückgegeben, weil ich denke wenn ich schon 300€ für nen Bildschirm ausgebe, sollte ich damit auch zufrieden sein.

Ich denke in nem halben jahr werde ich nochmal auf nen TFT zurückgreifen, solange bleibe ich bei meinem 21" CRT
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So viel dazu von mir THX für alle die helfen wollten !

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19" TFT XEROX XA7-19i DVI 8ms Xerox XA7-19i Reaktionszeit: 8 ms // Helligkeit: 250 cd/m² // Kontrast: 800:1 // Auflösung: 1280x1024@75Hz. // Analog // DVI!! mit Glasscheibe

Habe den Monitor seid ca. 2 Monaten!
Keine Toten Pixel!
Einfach nur Perfekt!

Eine ganzklare kaufempfehlung!!!!!

MFG
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also kaufempfehlung? welchen hast den genau?
wie lange hast ihn den? irgendwo tote/halb tote/möchte gern tote pixel?

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Total: 120
Blocks
Login: Not cached
Main Menu: Not cached
Herzlich Willkommen: Not cached
Usermenü: Not cached
PD-Members: Not cached
Site Info: Not cached
Umfragenblock: Not cached
Google Adsense (klein): Not cached
Partner: Not cached
Total: 9
Extra
Included files: 237 files
Memory usage: 2142504 bytes
Timers
XOOPS took 0.334 seconds to load.
XOOPS Boot took 0.009 seconds to load.
Module init took 0.126 seconds to load.
newBB_Header took 0.003 seconds to load.
newBB_viewtopic took 0.247 seconds to load.
XOOPS output init took 0.046 seconds to load.
Module display took 0.151 seconds to load.
Page rendering took 0.002 seconds to load.