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Re: Gibt es genug Treiber?
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jo also du kannst zeta problemlos neben windows installieren, das ist überhaupt kein problem

solange du halt keine sata hardware drin hast, also das geht ohne jegliche probleme oder einbussen (bis auf den speicherplatz halt, wegen extra partition).

im freenet bericht haben sie schön erklärt in welcher reihenfolge was installiert gehört - am besten, wegen den bootloadern.

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Re: Gibt es genug Treiber?
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Okay, welche Software ist bei Ver.1.0 schon perfekt!? Jedenfalls vielen Dank für die Infos und Links, eine Live-CD scheint mir wirklich interessant, vorallendingen bei den Problemen die wohl bei einer Parallel-Instalation mit anderen Systemen auftreten können. Und zum Testen des Ganzen sind 10€ nun wirklich nicht viel!
Schön ist auch zu hören, dass es eine Community gibt, die sich unabhänig vom Hersteller so ihre Gedanken macht: Das ist immer eine gute Chance, Probleme oder Anpassungen an die entsetlich große Anzahl an Hardwarekombinationen etc in den Griff zu bekommen.

Bin jedenfalls gespannt auf euren Bericht! :Tasty:

Posted on: 2005/7/16 19:22
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Re: Gibt es genug Treiber?
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auf der debug gabs eine ziemlich große diskussion über diesen artikel

ich persönlich bin nicht sonderlich glücklich über den bericht da er vieles nicht ganz so darstellt wie es ist.

nun zeta 1.0 ist nicht perfekt, es gibt einige mankos (wird werden auch einen bericht demnächst darüber veröffentlichen, nebenbei bemerkt)

zum drucker "problem", also yellowtab haben da cups portier - das ist eine art druckerdatenbank für linux (soweit ich weiß) damit sollten eigentlich die druckerprobleme der vergangenheit angehören.

ich hab mir das mal kurz angeguckt und die druckerliste ist echt sehr lange und extrem viele modelle sind darin enthalten (hab die liste aber nur mal gschwind durchgescrollt, nicht ausprobiert)

weiters hast natürlich recht zeta kostet geld und das nicht gerade wenig es sind scho 99 € zum bezahlen, höchstens man besitzt eine vorversion von zeta (zB rc1,rc2,rc3 und neo) dann braucht man nur ca 10 € dafür bezahlen - was icht sehr fair und benutzerfreundlich finde.

weiters ist zeta sicherlich nochimmer etwas hacklig wie man so schön sagt mit der hardware - es hat sich zwar eine wirkliche menge getan nur wurde auch einpaar fehler gemacht.

zB finde ich es nicht gut das yellowtab von zeta neo zur 1.0 das scsi system komplett überarbeitet hat, dieses neue system hat nämlich teilweiße arge probleme - wird ja auch im ct artikel gedeutet, wobei kaum ein normal user wirklich scsi geräte drin hat.

das problem klingt so gesehen nicht wirklich wichtig, nur unter zeta werden die meisten laufwerke einfach als scsi erkannt (ist ja eigentlich ziemlich egal) und das ist natürlich dann doppelt blöd.

man sollte darauf achten am besten kein sata drin zu haben, den das kann ziemlich probleme machen soweit meine erfahrung - aber das muss ich noch genauere testen.
hab hier noch einpaar interessante links für alle dies interessiert:

Zeta 1.0 Test bei freenet.de

weiters gibt es auch ein buch zu zeta, mit einer zeta version dabei:
Zeta - Das Profihandbuch, m. CD-ROM

weiters soll es auch eine live-cd von zeta 1.0 geben, die soll angeblich im oktober kommen.

ist auch nicht gratis aber soll nur 10 € kosten, also denk ich mal nicht alzu übel - wird wohl das hier werden -> Zeta, das Multimedia-Betriebssystem

Posted on: 2005/7/15 23:21
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Ich hab in der letzten c´t (Nr.14, 27.6.2005) gelesen, dass die Jungs nicht besonders zufrieden waren mit Zeta.
Wohl auch oder vorallendingen, weil sie Probleme mit passenden Treibern für ihre Hardware (wohl, wenn ich mich richtig erinnere, besonders mit der Peripherie, also Drucker etc.)

Welche Erfahrungen habt ihr damit gemacht?
Teilt ihr die Kritik an Zeta, habt ihr auch die Erfahrungen gemacht, die die c´t schreibt? was ist mit Neo?

Zeta ist ja nun nicht umsonst, deswegen ist man ja nicht unbedingt gewillt, auf die eventuell teuer erstandene Hardware unter Zeta zu verzichten...

Fänd´s mal interessant, Erfahrungen von Leuten zu hören, die nicht alles "mieß machen", wie das die c´t gerne macht...

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0.000357 - SELECT count(*) FROM modules WHERE dirname = 'beosnews' AND isactive=1
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0.000362 - SELECT count(*) FROM modules WHERE dirname = 'PDMembers' AND isactive=1
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0.000953 - SELECT * FROM group_permission WHERE (`gperm_modid` = '44' AND `gperm_name` = 'forum_delete')
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0.000361 - SELECT * FROM group_permission WHERE (`gperm_modid` = '44' AND `gperm_name` = 'forum_print')
0.001482 - SELECT * FROM group_permission WHERE (`gperm_modid` = '44' AND `gperm_name` = 'forum_edit')
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0.001519 - SELECT * FROM group_permission WHERE (`gperm_modid` = '44' AND `gperm_name` = 'forum_edit')
0.001136 - SELECT * FROM group_permission WHERE (`gperm_modid` = '44' AND `gperm_name` = 'forum_delete')
0.001915 - SELECT * FROM group_permission WHERE (`gperm_modid` = '44' AND `gperm_name` = 'forum_reply')
0.000309 - SELECT * FROM group_permission WHERE (`gperm_modid` = '44' AND `gperm_name` = 'forum_print')
0.001503 - SELECT * FROM group_permission WHERE (`gperm_modid` = '44' AND `gperm_name` = 'forum_edit')
0.001135 - SELECT * FROM group_permission WHERE (`gperm_modid` = '44' AND `gperm_name` = 'forum_delete')
0.001971 - SELECT * FROM group_permission WHERE (`gperm_modid` = '44' AND `gperm_name` = 'forum_reply')
0.000298 - SELECT * FROM group_permission WHERE (`gperm_modid` = '44' AND `gperm_name` = 'forum_print')
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0.001340 - SELECT * FROM group_permission WHERE (`gperm_modid` = '44' AND `gperm_name` = 'forum_addpoll')
0.000683 - SELECT * FROM group_permission WHERE (`gperm_modid` = '44' AND `gperm_name` = 'category_access')
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0.003628 - SELECT * FROM group_permission WHERE (`gperm_modid` = '44' AND `gperm_name` = 'forum_reply')
Total: 91
Blocks
Login: Not cached
Main Menu: Not cached
Herzlich Willkommen: Not cached
Usermenü: Not cached
PD-Members: Not cached
Site Info: Not cached
Umfragenblock: Not cached
Google Adsense (klein): Not cached
Partner: Not cached
Total: 9
Extra
Included files: 239 files
Memory usage: 1949064 bytes
Timers
XOOPS took 3.747 seconds to load.
XOOPS Boot took 0.008 seconds to load.
Module init took 1.305 seconds to load.
newBB_Header took 0.002 seconds to load.
newBB_viewtopic took 3.735 seconds to load.
XOOPS output init took 0.040 seconds to load.
Module display took 2.392 seconds to load.
Page rendering took 0.002 seconds to load.